3. Some buyers are picky, rightfully so. Bozi, A useful article. Why was structural damage reported? owners doing it. Buyer already driving car is not aware. Panda Express is alright in my area as long as you walk in. I complained some more and they offered to send me some rotors–dude never did, totally flaked. **I think what happened was at the auction someone saw the lift, could not see how it was installed and reported structural damage based on a visual inspection. If we find a dealer playing this game, we blacklist them. OK. A few follow up questions. Where’s the Damage?On a Carfax Vehicle History Report, shoppers can often see an overhead diagram of the vehicle, with shading to indicate where the damage occurred. How many body shops actually replace a partially crushed component, compared to stretching it back to normal dimensions. Agreed that CarFax seems to help dealers on trade ins more than anyone else. Carfax does nothing to remove the “caveat emptor” disclaimer in the used-car buying process. The installation of the lift caused no structural damage to the vehicle. The dealer played dumb and pulled out a copy of the original report stating that they had no knowledge of the frame damage. It really didn’t matter for the trade in value as it was 15 years old at that point. As for frame damage, all vehicles have crush zones, and a meaningful impact will transfer to the crush zones. Cars are constructed on a frame or assembled using a unibody structure, according to Carfax Vehicle History Reports. “Welcome to Chick-Fil-A, would you like to try our Classic Hate, Grilled Hate, or Spicy Hate? While Carfax discloses this information as “structural damage”, the correct term in most cases is “structural repair”, which denotes the fact that the damage is no longer existing. Lease returns especially when dealing with luxury cars, the financial service company wants the entire history mentioned on an accident report to protect their position and interests. – On window and door seals To see if a vehicle has been painted, look for overspray/excess paint: Structural damage can also vary auction by auction. Tagging a car with ‘structual damage’ is a way for the auction (RE: Manheim in particular) to cover their a** in arbitration and especially with OVE purchases. Over a 7 year period in my last car I was rear ended 3 times while sitting at lights and had the front bumper torn off by a guy in a parking lot who wasn’t paying attention. Access the vehicle's Carfax report online and examine the report closely. Factory-owned cars with structural seem to get reported to CARFAX quicker than other cars through the block. Years. Did you actually see the CARFAX report at the dealership, or have you at least followed up to find out for yourself? Companies respond better when others are watching. That is a tricky situation. 6. damage repairs reported structural repairs reported repairs to rear says Carfax reported this on 2/26/14 and details added on 6/5/14. One, I was not surprised, the other, quite surprised and was told the repair was done correctly. **The dealer did not keep the vehicle they sent it to an auction. ‘Structural damage’ is also a great way for a dealer to devalue a potential trade-in and rob it. Also being far away I’m sure they knew that I wouldn’t bother coming back and what’s one bad review among all the good ones? A car with "structural damage" may be fine, it may not. If the sales manager was trying to gig them, so be it, but our repair was sound. When I purchased my Mercedes, I sent it to what appeared to be a very reputable indy with a good reputation. As another user pointed out, Carfax has a pretty good summary of how they qualify "structural damage." (KUTV) Amber Caygle wrecked her 2012 Mitsubishi Outlander three years ago. On a car with an MSRP of about $22k new, an $8k repair to the rear end. Last time I looked for a used car, Carfax offered a 30 day subscription, so I looked up some old cars we had owned. Buy a dealership. Even a cheap ($65) Paint Thickness Gauge from Amazon would have spotted something requiring further attention. Since then, we have exclusively used AutoCheck. We pulled a Carfax and it came up clean (this was in 2001). My inclination is to steer clear…but what are your thoughts? Installing a 5th wheel bracket in a pickup is ‘structural damage.’ Some means of installing an aftermarket hitch to a vehicle is considered ‘structural damage’ depending on the auction. The Carfax report does show a few additional pieces of information, such as a pending recall, but not much in the way of accidents or damage. Turns up, it had been bottomed out at one point underbelly plastic had scrape holes in it, the plastic jack points had been ripped off all four corners tearing the body in the process. CARFAX – like anything – is a guide and an element of a larger puzzle to give you a general idea of a car to the point where you are comfortable purchasing it. The collision I DID have several years later, doesn’t show up, but my fictitious Hawaii crash is still there. It also had been owned by a relative at the time, so we knew the car never had been in Texas, let alone damaged there. It did cause modification to interior plastic trim pieces. 4. Even if you start from bare metal, an after-market job will never have the same thickness as a factory job due to it being applied in a totally different way. So, there is a car for sale and the owner states there is no frame damage and no damage was evident behind the fenders. A 3-inch scratch or dent on a rocker or trunkpan? I Have a letter (sent to Blake) from the general service manager of the dealership stating there was no structural damage to the vehicle. The thing is what I see on Carfax reports is the collision report from the police stating things like “damage RF air bags deployed, cityville police dept” but never have I seen “repair RF” Joe’s Autobody anytown USA. The vehicle is a Toyota Highlander lease car. Insurance companies usually don’t report hail damage and dealerships repair their own vehicles with PDR. Core support damage? Three months later front fender area for $1.5k. "Nearly Half of All Midsize Trucks Sold in America Are Toyota Tacomas", "TTAC News Round-up: Subaru Goes Beyond the Beige, Battery Battle at Porsche, and Tesla Confuses Economists", 2021 Kia Seltos S Turbo AWD Review – Routine Competence, 2020 Mercedes-Benz AMG E53 Coupe Review – A $96K Bargain, QOTD: VW Golf – Gonna Miss Me When I’m Gone? Carfax explained that its database is comprehensive but relies on other parties to submit much of the information. GetHuman4416407 did not yet indicate what CarFax should do to make this right. I am working with Blake (I do not know his last name) but seem to be hitting a wall. However, as clean as the interior was, and the low (58K or so) mileage on a 9 year old car, something was not sitting right with me. These are brand new, zero mile vehicles we are talking about here. It was returned to a Toyota dealership after the lease expired (Santa Margarita Toyota, CA.). Bozi, Thanks. I thought about mentioning the arbitration angle but figured that might be going to deep into it. I’m sure it was screened by Carfax, but I have no idea if it was verified and added to the report. The dealer (part of a reputable group I've dealt with before) says it was minor damage to the front bumper. Stop whining. I did not spill root beer in that collision, haha. One example is what is pointed out here, that it can take several weeks to months for the info to show up, and with all the disclaimers and fine print, they are not legally bound if auction data comes out after a car is sold. He sold the car for a lot less than it should have been worth. Carfax is there to put lipstick on all used stock that would never sell at excellent condition. eventho the title is clean but there is structural damage ? On the subject of why people self-pay instead of using insurance…sometimes they want a clean CarFax, sometimes their beloved son has already had a wreck or two…had the mother of a student at The Priory, fancy boy’s high school in St Louis, come in with her son and 4 of his schoolmates in tow…sonny-boy had managed to hit 4 parked cars on the lot at school and the mother preferred to self-pay. Follow other customers in the midst of the same issue or find a prior solution. If these accidents were reported and repaired under insurance, then just how much less should this car be worth and would it be OK as a used car purchase or should we just walk away? We found roughly 60%+ of AutoCheck cars with auction-announced frame damage had clean CarFax’s. Frame damage is damage to any component of a vehicle that is part of the main structure of the vehicle, or any component designed to provide structural integrity. These. I … The damage was probably similar to what OP is talking about, I rubbed the front fender on another car in the driveway while turning it around and creased the fender. Auto auctions report vehicles that have holes drilled in the frame as frame damaged too. Other questions came up. As for this article, did the car in question actually have frame damage? 2. I should note that this is for an aluminum unibody car, but not an NSX. Some customers get too wrapped up in using it as a safety blanket. Right off the bat I realized Carfax’s clean report didn’t mean diddle..so I called for the local Toyota dealer to do a PPI. **Not TRUE!! vehicle was not involved in an accident. Since then I have purchased new vehicles. Both issues were reported to insurance and repaired in their recommended repair facilities. The Carfax was clean, so I was unaware of the issue and paid full price for the car. It was for sale from a Tier 2 used car dealer. Turns out it was completely repainted when passenger-side front fender, door and rear quarter panel were repaired after brushing a guard rail. I went through insurance all 4 times. Why was structural damage reported? She said it was in a small wreck.“There was no damage to me or anything else,” she said. Is it that the damage is eventually reported? Those $20K customer pays are someone that did a hit and run or otherwise don’t want to get the authorities involved because it could lead to them losing their license and/or becoming uninstallable due to too many claims. I’ll also take off all the underbelly pans as they do a great job hiding many sins. Here is a great example of someone who had a few drinks in them, got in a collision, and tried to get home to keep the authorities out of it. The big deal is that the dealer s relying on information they have that is not shared with the buyer, is using a carfax to provide an assurance they know is not true, and is therefore engaged in fraud, has a business model commonly known as a con, and is engaged in the opposite of “free market” enterprise. That’s just a small example of the art involved with body work. Structural damage reported. I also think film thickness is more relevant where there is body filler, not just fresh sheetmetal with fresh paint on it. If you’re a buyer, a competent mechanic’s inspection is always your best insurance. – Near door, hood, and trunk hinges My thinking was to steer clear of this source. Otherwise, how do you explain the discrepancies between the original Carfax for the Pathfinder and the one from 2 years later? I am working with Blake (I do not know his last name) but seem to be hitting a wall. A clean accident report could be clean, or inaccurate, while most of the time they are accurate or very close. When I contacted Carfax about this, they asked me to prove it wasn’t in Hawaii on that day! Only one of those accidents even made it on to the Carfax I pulled when I sold it. So in my experience a PPI is good IF the shop that’s doing it gives a rat’s fanny. The Carfax website only points out that they collect odometer readings from auto auctions, but provides no notes in regards to auction announcements. based on results of a visual inspection. In 1990, I bought a new Pontiac Grand Prix that had a paint peel problem while still under warranty. I have also read that Carfax in Canada is somewhat more complete/up to date, than in the US. Had she been successful you can bet that repair would have been a customer pay. – Along the trim pieces inside wheel wells. Utah DMV states that a vehicle will have a branded title if damaged “to the extent that the cost of repairing the vehicle for safe operation exceeds its fair market value”. Really, structural damage is an accident that happened in a section of the vehicle that can't just be repaired with a fender removal/replacement. He started shopping for a new vehicle and asked one of the dealers to evaluate the Pathfinder for a trade-in value. First, from what I have found so far, Carproof in Canada seems to be a lot more complete because it shows actual cost of repair which is a big benefit. So, I spoke to allstate diminished value adjustor and looking at my repair paperwork no where on there does it state structural damage. I’m confused; doesn’t Carfax provide a buyback guarantee? Exactly. That would generate irate phone calls from the car owner asking why we messed up their car. There was a link to add info, and I completed it. That's it. When confronted with the PPI, the seller was also taken aback. The two things that bothered me the most was she over paid for the car back in 2001. **There was a scooter lift installed in the rear of the vehicle which I removed and took numerous pictures of (some of which I sent to CARFAX). We've taken the time to write instructions for how to solve some of the most common CarFax customer problems. I was turned off by it but the vehicle with the options I want is almost impossible to find so I'm thinking I should reconsider. If your pickup has/had a gooseneck hitch, it likely has extra holes which constitute frame damage by the auction and Carfax. Carfax reports unfortunately only reflect any work or damage that was reported to Carfax. As another user pointed out, Carfax has a pretty good summary of how they qualify "structural damage." Mike, I actually was considering the possibility of branded title vehicles from Autosource and a similar dealer here in the Salt Lake area–a $28K GS350 with 12K miles really catches the eye–but shelved that idea. Even the new ones can have problems. I offered him low book, and he showed me his invoice which indicated he would lose money on the deal. Months? My general rule of thumb is not to buy salvage vehicles rebuilt by others just because you never know how it might have been put together. I have found numerous incidents where Carfax was inaccurate. If a vehicle is accidented the reasonable dealer will clearly mention that its an “accident-repair” to protect their interests. Initially, the damage is only reported on the AutoCheck as Carfax is not getting the announcement data from the auction directly. If you, mechanic, are going to claim you can perform pre-purchase used car inspections, you clearly have no *bleep! There was fisheye in the paint on the hood and left side A pillar, something not usually found on a Toyota. Structural damage or repair has more to do with the location of the damage, as opposed to the severity. My girlfriend has a frame car, my friends have frame cars, etc. Nor is CarFax. A PPI is not meant to provide the service history of a car. Yes, I'll take the survey! The most I have paid for a used car was $3500 back in the 80’s. I found out about one such dealer when a friend went to trade his car and was hit with a surprising report of frame damage. My parents just got dinged (no pun intended) because of an accident record. They claim that it passed their stringent inspections. And we don’t have them here in Maine so it is something different. Modified on: Sun, 4 Oct, 2020 at 7:17 AM. I … Panda Express… the reason pandas are an endangered species! I learned this when my wife hit a deer with her 4 month old Prius. Car is damaged and fixed by someone. The report was taken back to the original selling dealer of the Pathfinder. Is this true? However when the dealer started the paperwork they ran a Carfax report now the dealer said Carfax showed on the report that there was structural damage. B.S yes I was in a minor accident where I struck a piece of steel on the Freeway but the only damage was 2 broken wheels and 2 flat tires. She bought a 3 year old Honda Accord in 2001 privately. Let’s just get this paperwork finished so I can get my roots done.”, Castigating a car simply because it has ‘frame/structural damage’ in and of itself is highly dubious and illogical without being fully cognizant of exactly WHY the auction has tagged that car as having ‘structural damage.’. One of the local dealers that was known for sleazy tactics was arrested a few years ago but the others are still in business. These same reports are fraught with inaccuracies, while providing a sense of comfort. – Around electrical conduits in door jambs Running the VIN through Autocheck shows the same auction date and odometer but shows an announcement for frame damage. We ended traded it in 2013 and the dealer pulled up the Carfax and it stated that it was in a major accident in 1999 (or 2000) with almost $10K worth of repairs (we paid $14K). They verify that the Carfax is clean and list the cars on their lot to sell quickly. My friend decided to open a case with Carfax. They gave it a clean bill of health so I didn’t spend a lot of time picking it down as I usually do. They did however print the CarFax Warranty Check. Took pictures and showed the person interested in buying my car and they were happy to see it was very minor and would not have caused any structural issues. On this page you’ll find car maintenance advice and other tips to save you time and money. What did the parts cost when the car was only six months old? Probably not. It was returned to a Toyota dealership after the lease expired (Santa Margarita Toyota, CA.). Most auctions do not consider any collision damage below $3,000 and someone to protect their interest in a minor collision to be certain there are no come backs might just declare “frame damage” as a protective measure. The accident was enough to put the car into a broad, permanent state of “damaged,” which could be anything worse than a scratch but short of a salvage title. My Leaf’s front end collision was repaired by a certified Nissan body shop, and it needed some frame straightening – $4000 in damage. This car was over 100 miles away, so getting someone to do the dirtywork seemed like a good idea. AutoCheck sources damage information directly from auctions. Take the so called “Carfax guarantee” — it only covers the titling of the car, not its service history. Accident reports have become an industry standard when selling/buying used vehicles at auctions or retail. The hypothetical car was repaired on Celette fixtures, with all BMW parts, and was likely as well-repaired as anywhere in the world, but would you want that car? The one exception is Uber, who appears to recheck vehicle history using Autocheck on a regular basis and cancels any contracts that come up with a frame damage hit. Maybe you could clarify this further. I do not for an instant think that many if any people do a customer pay for a $20K+ repair to avoid it showing up on the carfax history. If damage or repair is not reported to them, or if you do the work yourself like many hobbyists do, Carfax will never know. The car was procured from State Farm, who sold him the car with a 100% no-risk buyback guarantee, so he wasn’t out anything by rejecting the car, so he had no reason to try to pawn it off on anyone who caught the problem. How do I really know if it was repaired properly and won’t start having collision-related issues in a few years? That can take months or years for certain cars. Turn around and sell it as a used car that was “expertly repaired in our own shop” and downplay the whole thing…win-win for them. Fast forward a few years later, the Carfax was still clean, but CarMax discovered the issue when I brought it in for an estimate and I received a very low offer. It had a few scratches but it had low mileage and decent price. This is some great independent journalism. A PPI on all general items, and additional targeted checks by a specialist based on what the stack of papers has revealed IS the most important part in DECIDING whether you should buy it. Strength in numbers! The vehicle is a Toyota Highlander lease car. I know two body guys who worked on the docks in Boston repairing damaged cars as they came off the boat. Hail damage will usually not show up on a CARFAX report unless your vehicle was totaled or it was reported by the shop you took it to. No record of it until a fender bender revealed Bondo work. None of that shows up on Carfax. B.S yes I was in a minor accident where I struck a piece of steel on the Freeway but the only damage was 2 broken wheels and 2 flat tires. I tell people about prior accident damage and I don’t ask full retail. **Sincerely*Tom Esser. The reporting agency defines auto frame damage as the compromise of "any component designed to provide structural integrity." Most vehicles nowadays are built on a unibody that incorporates many frame parts, and accidents in those areas usually dictate whether a vehicle has structural/frame damage. Correct. Yes you missed something and that is the fact that it can take months for some things to show up on carfax. You might be surprised how well-camouflaged a proper repair can be. ’cause I know.). I even wrote to the car dealer and advised them of this issue, but they never responded. So Carfax was not at fault. Modified on: Sun, 4 Oct, 2020 at 7:17 AM. Oddly enough, the folks I tend to throw a CARFAX at will hardly ever balk at multiple accident damage, multiple owners, and the like while the cars with almost impeccable service histories get the most scrutiny – (“I see this car missed a service in 2009…but then picked back up after the first of the year. Once I was rear ended at ~15 mph (enough to smash the bumper and tweak the trunk), and once in the front corner hard enough to knock the whole front bumper off and damage the front suspension. These dealers seek out cars that look clean but are announced with frame damage since they go for so much less. “I do not for an instant think that many if any people do a customer pay for a $20K+ repair to avoid it showing up on the carfax history.”. You are absolutely correct and I always stress that a Pre-Purchase Inspection is the most important part of checking the history of a car for that exact reason. It’s your own damned fault. To me that reads, "Danger Will Robinson". The don’t call it the Carfax *title* guarantee — they rely on the fact that most people do not read the fine print, and know the end user will assume it covers ALL the info in the report. Even if the parts cost was doubled that would mean that there are still thousands of dollars in labor, paint, and possible time on a frame machine so the damage was likely extensive. Received carfax report from dealership . Speaking with a few local, reputable dealers led me to find out there are a few dealers in the area that participated in an unscrupulous practice of misrepresenting cars that were marked with frame damage. For example, if your car has been wrecked, you'll be unable to remove the accident from the history report. Thanks,Bozi. They are usually fairly quick in reporting the information, so it’s a good idea to use both reports. CarFax is a great tool for dealers…you go to trade in your car, they point out that it was wrecked and repaired,even if it was done well, in a good shop, or even the dealership’s own shop and offer a low-ball trade-in offer…. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/03/09/cops-pull-over-driver-15-foot-tree-lodged-cars-front-grille/81518792/. **I am certain this report was made In error and would like it removed from the vehicle Carfax. The Gas Monkey guys sunk at least a quarter mil into a F40 and I think more than twice that was spent fixing the Gizmondo guy’s Enzo, but I guess limited production Ferraris are worth so much money that they literally cannot be totaled. You won’t be able to simply eyeball a given car or truck to determine whether it’s had structural damage. When the car was resold in a used car lot 10 months later, it had a clean Carfax. Structural damage can also vary auction by auction. 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