The supect, 27 YO Repeat Felon Vincent Alex DeLeon, was arrested and jailed…Again. Beretta love them all but if I had to stake my life on a pistol I would pick my sd9 or 40 up & trust I would have no problem! Great review! Probably will. Yes, it does have a somewhat lengthy pull, but it’s nothing that detracts from the gun or a concern the shooter can’t deal with by shooting a box out on the range. Best striker fire gun on the market for the money …I own 2 SD 40 VE’s and did my qualifying for my concealed carry license with the Smith on a day where it was zero degrees and a minus 30 windchill…never failed to fire once …we had guys and gals shooting Glocks that had problems in the bitter cold….very reliable as I have fired over 1000 rounds through mine with not one single misfire….can’t complain….it is my primary conceal gun as it holds 14 rounds of SW 40 cal. Glad to have you as anew shooter. Comparing an SD40VE to an M&P Pro, the two biggest things that jump out at me are the type of polymer used in the frame (the SD is shinier and slicker), and the slide has no finish (the SD is straight up stainless). I hope to never need to defend others or myself using deadly force, but, want to be ready and resolved to take action when necessary. These are very comparable guns, for their price difference. These SD9VE Pistols eat All kinds of ammunition without a hiccup. I bought it new right from S&W. you will hit your target, however consitancy at a range any furteher then that however can get a little iffy. As they say, you can’t make silk out of a sow’s ear. Weight: 22.7 oz. My experience was the SD9ve was it one of the worst guns I ever owned. well. Now I have a Ruger P95 also and have to lubricate it more than the S&W to avoid jams but it has a much heavier slide. The only thing I can add of value is that the SW9VE does what the design was supposed to do – provide a reliable defensive semi-auto at a price-point for nationwide consumer sales. If you are new to this, then the groupings may be just from lack of practice. It’s a self-defense gun, not a match 1911. The powdered graphite alone will eliminate all of the grittiness in the trigger. I shot the sp101 in double action most of the time. Congress may constitutionally provide for the point at which subjects of Interstate Commerce become subjects of state law and, therefore, state regulation. Don’t let it slip to Smith & Wesson that the SD VE series are Value Packed, which they most certainly are and very enjoyable to shoot at the range. I would shoot 2 mags from the P95 and 2 mags from the 40VE and the trigger pull was drastically different. smaller or unknown brands. Soooo the gun shop has a used SD9 with 2 mags for sale $299. Ease of Use: * * * * * Have more expensive hand guns but I worry more when I carry them because if you ever have to pull them (not fire) but flourish and a threat stops (which has happened,,the bully backed off and called the cops.) Before the evening is out I plan on buying the aftermarket trigger and will have that installed along with the recommended parts polished before I leave the store with the gun in the next few months. It’s now as easy to break down as my Glock. I’ve read over at the SDVE forum someone recommended filling two magazines and letting them sit for 14 days. A handgun to me needs to WORK, every time, be, for me a natural pointer and have the ergonomics I require. Any gun, SD9, M&P, Glock, or otherwise can fail so I just want a second gun that’s as reliable as my Sigma. This gun doesn’t have a manual safety or a grip safety. For years I’ve been listening to the tired discussions about the benefits of owning expensive, boutique handguns. What about those grips? What really matters when used in self-defense is that it’s gonna go bang – repeatedly! They are worth every penny in less trigger pre-travel, over-travel and pull weight, better trigger reset, more comfortable feel, ease of shooting, (which leads to better accuracy), and better overall reliability. Just my two cents worth …. I have a Sigma that has never failed to hit what I aimed at any time I have pulled the trigger. Rather than buying a factory mag for $33 shipped (the cheapest I had found at the time), I sold it privately for $260 (the price I paid for it) and bought the new SD with 2 mags for $299 – which is what I’d have to spend to get a spare mag for my used gun. Now that you have the Apex spring kit and like your pistol more you should go to the next step. I have a hand mme doan Diaper Genie diaper pail, but you It feels and handles well, is fairly accurate, and the trigger pull wasn’t a problem to me except affecting accuracy when rapid firing. Rob G. , I’m sorry to hear about the horrible restrictions. I have this weapon in my home for my wife. Mine were very difficult too – the 16th round – but after a while it freed up. just suggesting this becasue if i had just spent the time with a glock i really wouldnt be half the shooter i am now. But the SD9 VE brought me down a notch. I appreciate your review. Randy, Can’t blame your Female Instructor. For me the trigger is fine just the way it is. I’m surprised by the prices you quote on the 2 guns. You don’t have to go nuts cleaning it, just spray the nozzled power lube right into the trigger and work it 6 years of reviews and more comments so I may as well pile on. Hey CharlesSolomon, I am of the mindset that I want to use 200 rounds of quality ammo during the break-in period and continue to use the same brand and a secondary choice for training purposes, but keep a load of the best self-defense ammo I can buy by the bedside. The Professional Police officers, Guardians of The Public Trust, are from an era goneby. This gun IS A HOMERUN So PUULLEEEZZEE Smith&Wesson, Put a Manual Safety on it!!! Since 3 weeks now, I’ve got me 1 piecs S&W SD9VE from Gandermtn. As long as the trigger is, no no way, adding to the cocking cycle, it is SA, “single-action” whetrher you call it that or not. The trigger pull is a slightly longer now but greatly, greatly improved. Meanwhile this politico is trying to buy 500 M16 AUTOMATICS to sell on the street to ANYONE in an FBI Sting, he was just arrested. I look forward to my new S&M I will park it next to my Hi Point which sits next to my Kimber Swat Model which sits next to my never fired cheetah 86 tip up and those are just one shelf. I’m kinda partial to the M&P models, but might stage one at home. Every single friend that shot it said it was a horrible horrible trigger and wouldn’t shoot it more then a few rounds. The Apex solution doesn’t do it for me. On the other hand, I can apply the $200 savings for a an S&W M&P-15 Sport, for for less than $1,000 I can have both an AR and a 9mm from the same American company (and I do believe in supporting USA made products.). The review was of an SD9. But, this time, when I sell it (which didn’t take more than two or three days from post to person). So, it may be nothing more than making the task of pulling the trigger and firing the bullet a lot harder to ignore when more effort is required to accomplish it. $300 guns that need $60 (or more) in fixes keeps bringing me back to buying more expensive gun that has everything I want. So, I’m keeping the SD40, selling the SD9VE and taking those $$ to add to my cash for a M&P9…then I’m DONE! This next part should go with out saying but I’m going to say it any way, make sure the weapon is not loaded, pull the trigger, then proceed with the rest of the take down instructions. Feels good in the hand. Yes, it has some budget minded parts, but it’s a very functional, solid firearm with a well-designed polymer frame. The biggest flaw was that the holster did not go past the grip. “That little quirk is naturally, thanks to the craptastic trigger. bad does happen that is the shitty thing. Ive probably ran about 1500 to 2000 rounds through it and never cleaned it,and it never jammed,or gave me any issues. I often read, but rarely comment, on these sites, however I couldn’t resist this time after reading the other comments. Accurate as you are. Have I mentioned it? I purchased this pistol for my wife. Cost should not have to be a major factor when choosing a gun – especially when cost can be deceiving. go up 90-130rd of winchester and other cleaner burning rounds before the residue will start to affect your consitancy and I’m sure the target accuracy can be improved, but if you get it as a home gun, having 17 rounds to spray ought to make up for not being a tack driver. very well said and thanks for your service brother. Yet, if the price is too good to pass, I buy it with the knowledge that it’s never tlaen me more than a week to sell something I didn’t want to keep. My next object of desire is a Kahr CW380 just a few more nights at my Chippendales dancing job and One of those babies is mine! I actually PREFER the 7.8 pound trigger over the lighter triggers. The Wife ALSO Loves to shoot the SD9VE as female wrists are not fond of Snappy Powerful guns. What’s not to like. Hey, you got rid of the HiPoint, you just saved your life ahead of time! Not my original idea, but it’s something you can do while waiting for your Apex kit. How can I upgrade this gun for under 100.00 to make a difference? I have the forty and have fired over 300 rounds through it. Le portail boursorama.com compte plus de 30 millions de visites mensuelles et plus de 290 millions de pages vues par mois, en moyenne. to just ask that question shows me your not going to know even if we tell you. In fact, this is probably going to be my recommendation for someone who wants to get their feet wet with gun ownership. Go figure. This time around, I’ll have a few goodies to go with it. Reading this review before taking it to the range helped a great deal. It takes time to learn the “quirks and personality” of any gun. Got back from the range after 2000 rounds, NOT A Hiccup and Great Accuracy..WOW!!!!!! I can’t seem to make it fail. ive seen them after market promag 30 rder mags but all the ones I seen said there four the m&p and others but I seen on a youtube video they were use them on the sd9 ve 9mm can you use the m&p magzines on the sd9 ve 9mm and if you can witch is the series number four the sd9ve 9mm so I can look it up, Right off the bat, I give it two negatives. Pain transmission back to the brain do not have a dedicated line, so you werer probbably deeply involved in something else to notice. Sad to say, out of the box, it double feeds every 2 – 4 rounds with both magazines. BTDT. The indictment details charges against Yee as well as his political consultant, Keith Jackson, and numerous others as part of a wide sweep of alleged crime and corruption in San Francisco’s Chinatown. 3rd trip was after I changed that lame polymer guide rod for a Galloway all metal one. So, the theory goes as follows (“Theory” because this “adrenalin effect” as it relates to treigger actions has never been replicated and predicted in a well-controlled test environment that duplicates a normal living environment – like a bedroom. Customize This: * * * Great gun for a beginner or an advanced shooter who just wants another gun to have around “just in case”. Well, then there was the faulty trigger mechanism … the trigger pin walked out after 50 rounds and locked up the slide, so was sent back to the factory for an upgrade. I installed the APEX spring kit in my all black SD9 at the beginning of the year and the kit is worth every penny. I sent it to S&W and received it back supposedly fixed. My groupings were entirely from shooting error. I put about 50 rounds downrange before my forearms started aching. It worked perfectly for my needs. Or worse, that reset point was also a mystery position and both the trip and reset poinbts were not accompanied by an audible click. 16 rds of firepower is nothing to sneeze at. I have a Kia and it’s been 100% reliable for over 10 yrs. But, as I said, S&W has made numerous improvements to the SD over the SW that preceded it and the dreaded Sigma (where the only direction you could go is up). By swityching out the sprfings, you just negated everything good you said about the trigger. Yes, the trigger is still relatively long and heavy but safer for carry IMO. I’ve tried different ammo and have put about 200 rounds thru it on 3 trips to the range. I also got Dawson Fiber Optic Sights for it too! Just replaced the factory takedown on my buddy’s SDVE with one made by Lonewolf (Glock lever works fine). Whats your problem Duke. The comment about this thing pointing like and Irish Setter were dead on. A cubicle-dwelling technology sales professional by day, he is an avid starter of projects, purchaser of speciality tools, and aspiring chef outside the office. Sent the following Federal Law info to Right Now We are pushing to get the Califarcia AG (attorney general) kamala harris’ blatant pistol firing pin stamp scheme monopoly and 2nd Ammendment Violations and interstate trade violations noted to bag this politician along with her lovers leland yee and shrimp boy…This Whole scenario of these three politicos involved in a shanghai prostitute slave ring for political campaign money is shocking if not an outright hollywood testament to the califarcia Politicians and their unsatiable hunger for political power and money and it’s trail leading straight up to THE Number One Politician of All Crooked Politicians califarcia “gov” jerry (MoonBeams) BJ Brown Bottom. I went to the show to sample as many handguns as possible without any pressure to buy any. No doubt. It is NOT Necessary to describe these self righteous career politicians as we know what they are. I’ll 2nd that. Picked up the Generation 1 SD40 (all black melonite), and STILL have it, shoots great, trigger is fine. You don’t know how much this review helped me finalize my decision and put it on layway at my local gun shop today. I picked up extras at the gun show.**. like i said I like that it feels safe. This pistol is exactly a copy of the GLOCK pistol,. I thought the ploymers were supposed to lighten them? The third time was the charm, after another 100 rounds the sear assembly pin walked out, twice. a paced shoot allowing the barrell to seatle fairly simiualr, however the sd9 still will have a bigger spread.so for a shooter Indeed, although a bit too big for carry, it’s the type of gun for the vehicle, boat, woods, and especially for the home. Hope to pack up the wife, dogs and cat and head to the Tampa area when I retire in 4 years!!! I paid 279 and 250 respectively…new….I caught the 40 at the absolute bottom of the market before the black model ve came in….on a whim, in 2011 I bought the 9mm (black version) with front night sight and slightly improved trigger…more rounded and ergonomic…conceals better and holds 16 plus 1. It’s the reason why it took 6 weeks to get my SD back from service, with a note in it “No issues found. I don’t know if Smith has already changed the triggers but I bought this last summer and I think the trigger is great. I didn’t read all the comments. yes they are, i sold my sigma and still had two mags and when i bought the new sd9 they fit and worked perfect. I get smerkrks people call it a slick, it was half the price of. I am older and slowing down a bit. called you, you can use this i – Phone application for spying I am a believer in value. Something I should have done in the first place but I was trying not to spend too much (as well as keep peace in the house). It’s a heck of a bargain at $399 in Canada (only 10 round mag) and feels and looks better than a Glock. I have a Sigma 9 and two SDVE’s (one 9 and one 40) after seeing this review a while back I installed the Apex spring kits which made the gun shootable. Enjoy!!! Search the world's information, including webpages, images, videos and more. Otherwise, your standard fare applies. Never a jam or failure to fire. Well, I have smaller hands and they’re just fine. I get to shoot my brother’s MP40 once in a while, and love it. The original SIGMA was almost a dead nuts copy of the Glock machine. That’s the gun I bought. Admit it man… You’re never done. If you absolutely must have an AOW, build it on an H&K SP-89 or Ingram/Masterpiece Arms platform, or anything else with a fore-end strong enough to securely mount that vertical grip. I especially like the tactile “pad” they put on the SD9’s frame for the index finger. MSRP $379 (more like $329, and sometimes less via Brownells). The LCR has an outstanding DAO trigger. But after shooting it thousands of times, I may just have to get him one of his own. I had one a hated it. It has a manual safety – but we all know that many people do not like them and leave them turned off. It’s a good gun. While I dont dispute that the SD9 is probably a fine budget pistol, if you can wait until you save another $100 or so the M&P is (IMHO) a huge step up from the SD9. So for 50 bucks extra and an hour of my time, I have a better gun which I now intimately. Trigger travel, trigger break, and trigger reset are the only things that matter to me. While I’m a fan of S&W, particularly the M&P line, I was really disappointed with the overall reliability of the SVDE. Still it shoots nice groups and feels great when you first pick it up. Wanted to thank you, Tyler, and Bob Clark for your reviews on this gun. And if not,does anyone know where to buy,and what brand extended mag I need to purchase. When I simulate SD rapid fire situations I can still easily get on center mass target out to about 30ft.The SDs are a great value for the budget minded citizen considering it’s reliability and adequate SD accuracy. It pays to join the Smith-Wesson forum. I own a few pistols price range from 295-2200. It is also appreciably thinner. And BTW, Glocks need an aftermarket trigger job too, imo, so don’t even go there. now this gun always shot low left Ex-Law P.O.S.T. It also came with 3 chrome mags, and at 40 a piece, I think I got a pretty good deal for 50 dollars. I may do the trigger spring job later on. It is design for protection, but also it’s a great weapon for those individuals with limited gun experience. At $319 at Academy Sports I was expecting a gun that was a C grade gun at best. My pistol doesn’t have all the pre-travel, creep and excessive stacking that I’m reading about above. As it is, the SD9VE is quite a value. for 25% less (+ or -) than it was new, and everything swings…. I haven’t had a chance to actually shoot one, but I have certainly handled them endlessly. I know what you mean! Its cheap to buy and cheap to run. But right handed I shoot hand guns, rifles, shotguns ,,throw darts,, horseshoes, wipe myself,,spin cast etc.. Just as accurate as any of the other pistols i own more in some cases. I would say it was an 8LB pull. It shoots fine, so if you’re afraid of disassembly, just keep shooting. The use of this extract has also been clinically established to Now the dot falling out, well that’s just not acceptable and I would definitely hope you could get that fixed without sending the gun back to S&W. I decided to purchase my first handgun last November and being the first had no idea what I wanted. I may also run one on Armslist — for local sales only – as I do for all my FGT ads. Good idea? if you have never dissabled a firearm and worked on before, I suggest you have a local gunsmith polish up the action for you. The botton line of the story is that I did not like shooting .40S&W’s. These SDVE Series Pistols are worth every penny and shoot just incredibly great with ALL the Sigma mistakes Corrected/Perfected in these beauties. Add hogue grips. Accuracy and the ability to go bang bang bang without fail. For the money, I am very happy with it. When I pick up my SDVE this week, i am going to strip it, check it out for any manufacturing boo-boos, clean it up inside and ot, and then use a light layer of lube. Barrel Material: Stainless Steel I fired it a few times as well and had no issues with its performance. 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